Curse

Redvex · Oct 17, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Attribute link: Expertise; Duration 30seconds
energy 20; Recharge 40 seconds
Every 5 rank in expertise you can mantain 1 additional preparations.
Example: At 15 in expertise you can have: Apply Poison + Kindle Arrow + Barbed arrow

liutpry · Oct 17, 2008, 11:12 AM // 11:12

overpowered imao

subarucar · Oct 17, 2008, 11:20 AM // 11:20

RtW + Kindle + Glass = insane pressure spiking
Barbed + Apply = great condion spread
This Skill = seriosly imba

Rothan Celt · Oct 17, 2008, 11:28 AM // 11:28

would be imba but its never gonna happen

xanarot · Oct 17, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Try something like;

Attribute: expertise
Type: stance (to avoid to much self-buffing)
Energy: 30, duration: 15+1/expertise, 25 sec CD.

Allows (0-2) additional preparations to be used. Disables all attack skills while under effect of this stance. All preperations are used at no energy cost and instantly cast and recharge.

Tough it would still be TO imba;
Conjure weapon.
3x preperation.
Favo winds/winnowing.
Master or prep
Res skill.

Hello 100+damage normal attacks...

Redvex · Oct 17, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Ye you're right but to obtain 15 in expertise you must invest a lot of point and there's no so many points to marksmanship, wildness (where are a lot of preparations)or channeling /fire/ice etc.
Or at last to mantain maximum 2 preparations.

Redvex · Oct 17, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by subarucar

RtW + Kindle + Glass = insane pressure spiking
Barbed + Apply = great condion spread
This Skill = seriosly imba

Glass is an elite

smilingscar · Oct 17, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Actually, I think it's underpowered and dumb.

What ranger wants to spend 6 seconds applying preparations every 10 or 20 seconds or so when he could be attacking? Waste of time and just begging to be interrupted/knocked down. Not to mention the high energy cost; you'd have no room for attack skills.

UniversalCypher · Oct 17, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by smilingscar

Actually, I think it's underpowered and dumb.

What ranger wants to spend 6 seconds applying preparations every 10 or 20 seconds or so when he could be attacking? Waste of time and just begging to be interrupted/knocked down. Not to mention the high energy cost; you'd have no room for attack skills.

agreed 100%, something like this would take a rangers role completely outta the game..anyone using this would be dead before they ever got a chance to benefit from it..

-UC

MagmaRed · Oct 17, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

No skill has an energy cost of 20. None.
Although it would take time to set the preparations, 3 of them would be insanely overpowered. Can hit 15 Expertise with 11+1+3 and still split Marksmanship and Wilderness Survival/secondary attribute with 10 each, and a minor rune for any Ranger attributes.

/unsigned if this is a suggestion for a new skill

Raul the Rampant · Oct 17, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by subarucar

Barbed + Apply = great condion spread

Actually this would be inferior to using barbed arrows + poison arrow since it would require three skills to accomplish what can already be done with two.

Although it won't ever happen something along these lines might not be too bad though provided there's some drawbacks to it. Maybe something along the lines of a more expensive practiced stance could make this work...

Elite Stance (Expertise, 15 Energy 20 Second Recharge)
For 20...32 seconds, you can use 1 additional non-elite preparation. Your preparations activate 50% faster but expire 75...50% faster.

The scaling, high energy cost (for a stance) and the fact that it would be a stance would make it more difficult to abuse simply by having a ranger secondary, and the adjusted activation and duration times for preps would make it usable without becoming too overpowered. Like I said above it wouldn't replace the more common Barbed + Poison Arrow and Apply Poison + Burning Arrow/Incendiary Arrows for condition pressure, and it wouldn't allow for the elite preps to be copied and abused (Kindle + Apply Poison might become a bit problematic, but if Poison Arrow gets buffed to be more in line with Burning Arrow this becomes a moot point). Something like this might get some people to actually use Expert's Focus or Rapid Fire, although it would be quite harsh on Choking Gas and the already rarely-used Seeking Arrows. It would also require some tactical sense in order to use it correctly, as the lack of a blocking mechanic means that either another stance needs to be taken along or the secondary class/synergy with teammates actively incorporated for defensive purposes.

But again, it's not like this will ever come to be anything.

Luminarus · Oct 18, 2008, 06:00 AM // 06:00

The only thing I can see happening would be wasting too many skill slots. You could use this, and run kndle, ignite, and read the wind yay big damage... or you could run glass arrows, conjure, u do the same thing basically.

Its a bad idea... a ranger bar needs the interupts... so thats 2 slots gone. + Preparation, + elite, + rez, attacks/nat stride/troll/cond etc. No need for more preps, no thanx.

Only thing I can think of is ur 2nd suggestion with insta cast & insta recharge being good with Choking Gas.

doudou_steve · Oct 19, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

oh geez, are you the lost brother of solange?

Shayne Hawke · Oct 19, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

25e, recharge of 45. Make the spread to be 0..1..2 additional Preparations. Needs an additional condition of disabling attacks or ending on using attack skill or something.

And then it's still imba. Fun and interesting idea, but imba.

Dr.Jones · Oct 19, 2008, 08:47 AM // 08:47

because rangers don't already have 20 more elites then paras and dervs and 10 more then rits and sins. if any thing this game needs less skills imo. or they need to add a huge amount so the rits,sins,paras, and dervishs have equal amounts to the cor professions.

also something people forget about guild was is there are 290 elites not including pve elites. and 945 pvp skills in the game right now. so there are a 1235 pvp elites and non elites in the game right now. + 84 pve only skills. thats 1319 skills. we dont need any more.
/never signed untill the skill amounts are rebalanced.

jaximus · Oct 20, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

bad idea, just use experts dexterity and rtw and you have more damage and an ias in two att point spreads. be happy with what you have...

Tyla · Oct 20, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

/Signed!

But I have a better idea;

5E/0C/10R

Elite Stance. While under the effects of this skill, you attack 33% faster, your arrows fly twice as fast and every shot disables and interrupts an enemy skill for 20 seconds. This stance lasts for 20 seconds.

isamu kurosawa · Oct 20, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

/Signed!

But I have a better idea;

5E/0C/10R

Elite Stance. While under the effects of this skill, you attack 33% faster, your arrows fly twice as fast and every shot disables and interrupts an enemy skill for 20 seconds. This stance lasts for 20 seconds.

Add "If your arrows miss they cause knockdown for 3 seconds" Then we are talking.